How Human Design Maps Karma, Choice, And Change

Ever felt like your mind says yes while your body whispers no? We dig into Human Design with Avery—a projector, embodiment coach, and certified guide—to show how your aura, strategy, and authority can turn constant friction into clean, confident choices. Instead of another personality quiz that mirrors what you think, this framework centers your body’s intelligence, including ancestral aspects and past life karma, and the way your energy actually works in real time.

Details

We break down the mechanics with clear language: what makes Generators so powerful when they trust their gut, why Projectors thrive on recognition and invitation, and how frustration or bitterness act as signposts that you’re off track. From there, we widen the lens: the design side of your chart reflects inherited patterns and past-life echoes, while the personality side highlights conscious traits. Avery walks us through nodes, Saturn return, and the Uranus opposition to map a life arc from foundation to mastery. She shares how the first seven years set decision-making habits, and how to guide kids by type so they grow into their own authority instead of fighting someone else’s.

We also explore the deep end: neutrino streams, design and personality crystals, and a coming collective shift from the Cross of Planning to the Sleeping Phoenix in 2027. Expect more individuality, not less humanity. Advanced layers like colors, tones, bases, environment, and digestion explain why twins can share charts and lead different lives. Whether you’re a Generator craving satisfaction, a Projector seeking right invitations, a Manifestor learning to ride the initiation cycle, or a Reflector tracking community health, you’ll leave with a practical way to experiment: follow your strategy, trust your authority, and watch resistance fall away.

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Contact

Avery Kretschman currently lives in St. Petersburg, FL. You can reach her via email, her website and on social.

Avery Kretschman Email - amcurations@gmail.com

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References

International Human Design School Website: IHDS

Jovian Archive Website: The Source of Human Design

Books 

Human Design: The Definitive Book of Human Design, The Science of Differentiation by Ra Uru Hu

Understanding Human Design: The New Science of Astrology: Discover Who You Really Are by Dr. Karen Parker

Important Information

Past Lives Cafe is intended to bring you uninterrupted glimpses into others' past life experiences. Some have regressed in a group setting or individually in their dreams, as part of a tribal ceremony, through a guided meditation, with a certified regressionist or QHHT practitioner. Please contact Chione@QuantumJourneyGo.com with any questions about this modality or to share your own experiences on the podcast.

Thank you for your interest!

Chapters

• 0:00 Meet Avery And Her Path
• 1:16 What Human Design Is Made Of
• 4:30 Personality Tests Vs Body Wisdom
• 7:22 Life As A Projector
• 10:40 Generators, Uniqueness, And Alignment
• 16:32 Strategy, Authority, And Signposts
• 19:20 Past Patterns, Nodes, And Destiny
• 24:56 Saturn Return And Uranus Opposition
• 28:12 Parenting And Type-Specific Guidance
• 32:00 Crystals, Neutrinos, And Memory
• 37:12 Starseeds, Streams, And 30 Percent
• 40:16 From Planning To Sleeping Phoenix
• 45:04 Twins, Nuance, And Advanced Layers
• 49:12 Getting Started And Trusted Sources

Transcript

SPEAKER_00: 0:03

I am so happy to have with me today Avery. She is a human design guide, an embodiment coach, and an artist currently living in San Diego. She helps people remember their unique nature so that they stop quitting, feel confident in their decisions, and navigate resistance in life with clarity. Avery considers herself an eternal student. She has been trained and certified in healing modalities such as Reiki, Theta Healing, Hatha Yoga, Sound Healing, Thai Massage, and she continues to learn more as curiosity strikes. I am so happy and thankful to have you join me, Avery. And I will have for everybody, because I know you'll be wanting to know how to get in touch with her, I will have her contact information placed in the show notes. So once again, welcome, welcome. And I am just dying to know how human design and your spiritual journey happen to converge.

SPEAKER_01: 1:12

Yes. Thank you so much for having me. It's an honor to be here. Human Design found me in 2019. I was working with a shamanic mentor, and she was giving me information about astrology, and we were talking about the Tao of Nature, and we walked through the wheel together and explored life paths through this way. But she also had this knowledge about human design. And so she opened this door to me because she knew that this was such an important piece of a person's soul discovery and being able to make aligned decisions as themselves. And so she introduced this topic to me, human design, and she told me that I was a projector. And I was like, what is this? I was mind-blown. I learned so many valuable things from her. This door that she opened was such a momentous journey for me. And so she introduced me to some videos, like some YouTube videos. And then I ended up going on to learn from the person of those videos later on, which was funny. I studied with the International School of Human Design and then a few other teachers. And I've been certified as a human design guide, being able to offer basic readings and introduce people to the system. And then I'm working on getting into the deeper layers of the knowledge to work on being an analyst or the more deeper, nuanced professions that exist.

SPEAKER_00: 2:45

As a guide to human design, what type of people do you find come to you for that type of guidance and information?

SPEAKER_01: 2:58

Yes. And so I meet people who are on their spiritual path, who are exploring different ways of being and connecting with their energy. Most of these people have some kind of interest in astrology. This is an astrology-based system, and it just goes deeper. You know, it is so deep. And yeah, I meet people who are curious about their nature and curious about how they're meant to navigate in this world. And so, yeah, it's a lot of creative people and spiritual people, and you know, honestly, even managers and leaders to be people who understand that who we are impacts our environment and how we understand others impacts us.

SPEAKER_00: 3:40

It's a good point that you bring up about it being an astrology-based modality. It's a convergence of a number of modalities, right?

SPEAKER_01: 3:52

Yes. So we have elements of the Judaic Kabbalah, the Chinese, we have the Hindu Brahman chakra system is at play, Western and Vedic astrology, so many layers. And it's not a perfect transposition in any way. It's more of a synthesis because we're evolving. The more we learn, the more we can kind of say, oh, this works, that didn't. And then this works now, and that doesn't anymore. And so we layer these together and it comes up with this extra system that goes just a little bit deeper than the other ones can on their own. It's a synthesis, it's a quantum.

SPEAKER_00: 4:29

Gotcha. One of the things that I've always found interesting, but also questioned. So you're the perfect person to ask, is often when we take any sort of, I'm thinking of like Myers Briggs personality tests, the discs, those types of programs, just taking the initial test just to see where we fall. I'm not even going to get into all the different levels and rows that go towards meridians and all of that good stuff. Yeah. But one of the things I always think at first when I see the results is, wow, they got it right. That's so me. And then I think, well, wait a minute, I'm the one answering this question. So it is me. It's a reflection of me at that moment. But what is it meant to do? And I like what you said about how it's meant to help guide us in how we show up in the world and how we react with others or interact with others. Both.

SPEAKER_01: 5:32

Yeah, absolutely. That's a key element on why I continue to study because those personality tests are just that. It's your personality, but we have a whole body. The body is not the personality. And we are in the body and we are guided by the body. And so a human design system, it says that the body is the life. The personality is here to interact and to think and to gain awareness. But the personality does not make decisions. And so when we look at a human design chart, a body graph, we have the personality side on the black, and then we have the body, our design on the red. And so that's the side that's actually running the show. And this is actually unconscious to us, but other people can see this. We can see the design side within others, but we don't necessarily have access to that information forefront because the personality is the one that's in the awareness game. The personality is the one that's saying, Oh, I'm in charge, but that's not the personality is not in charge. We're a juxtaposition of the two. We have both. We're not just a body, we're not just a personality, we're both.

SPEAKER_00: 6:36

I get it. Okay. That makes perfectly good sense to me because I felt like a lot of times when I would be so enamored with the result, and then realize, well, of course, it's just reflecting back what I answered, that there's got to be more to this than just the reflection. There has to be some sort of innate position of people who can be categorized as, like you said, a projector or a generator or some of these other terms that I've heard floating around in the human design universe as it is. So that makes really good sense. And so what about that call to you?

SPEAKER_01: 7:21

Yeah. So learning that I was a projector, I got to learn that I'm part of 20% of the population and that my energy works very differently. You know, I knew that I didn't always behave in the same ways that a lot of other people did. I knew that I wasn't part of the majority of things, but I didn't know why or how. I think we all go through that. We all go through what are our differences? How do I show up differently? And then we go into school with people and we go into the workforce and we're in all these energetic exchanges and making friends with people. And there's some people that just seem to like get through smooth and groovy. They're just jumping from this thing to the next. And it wasn't always that simple. My energy worked a little bit differently. And so being able to learn what kind of projector I am, you know, there's five different kinds of projectors and they all work a little bit differently. So being able to get in touch with my nature, I was like, oh, this explains so much. I get to see that I'm meant to be invited in versus trying to go initiate things. Because when I try to go initiate things, it can be a little bit friction, you know, or offer advice. Projectors are the guides within the human design system because our energy literally goes so deeply into the other. We're meant to really focus in on the person that we're speaking to. Like one-on-one exchanges are prime projectors, because we're meant to go really deep into the other. And so when we offer advice, because we're seeing this energetic exchange happen, we're seeing very deeply into the other. But sometimes people aren't ready for this information. You know, you can't just knock on someone's door or not even knock, just walk into their house and say, excuse me, you're making breakfast wrong. It's not cool. But if you smell something burning, you knock on the door, they answer the door and they say, Oh, hey, what's going on? I can say, Hey, did you know you're burning your breakfast? You know, there's a little bit different of an exchange where it can actually be appreciated.

SPEAKER_00: 9:22

I love that because I and that example is really, I think, metaphorically poignant because there are a lot of times we know that we don't necessarily fit into maybe the system that's been set up, because oftentimes systems themselves are set up by people that are very unlike us. Maybe they're people, you know, that are older than us or of a different gender than us or a different generation than us. And I don't even mean older, I mean generations and generations ago. Um, so when we find ourselves trying to navigate within a system that doesn't apply to us, we tend to feel not just frustrated, but oftentimes like we're failing, I think, because we don't know how to make ourselves heard or we don't know how to make our point without causing friction. So I love that metaphor. We will talk about past lives, folks, but we're just trying to get the basis here, mostly because I have Avery all to myself for an hour, and I'm gonna pump her for as much information as I can. Yeah. Human design has always because, and I thought it was three basic systems, I had no idea it was as layered as it was uh with with all of the other different modalities you mentioned, with the chakras and the Vedic systems as well. But the one criticism I've heard, so I'm dying to hear your thought process, is sometimes when someone is, and is it the generator that tends to be prevalent, I should say? Um it makes people feel like they're not special. And for whatever reason, in Western civilization, we want to be special.

SPEAKER_01: 11:21

Yeah, well, we all are special, and I think we all deserve that, honestly. I truly believe that each of us are so truly unique. And like even twins are not alike because we are constantly being filtered through these neutrino streams. We're never standing still. There is no point in time when we're standing still, and so even twins can be dramatically different in their personalities because of the neutrino streams at any given moment. A minute can make a difference. We are all so totally unique, and it hurts my heart generators feel in that way because generators are fantastic beings. They are 70% of the population. Um, this is both classic generators and manifesting generators. Um, they're grouped together in the generator type because it's how their energy works. They're about auras. And so auras, the generator aura is open and enveloping and it's pulling people in, and they have this sacral system that kind of works like a battery pack. And so it's always on. And so when a generator is smooth and groovy, when they're in alignment, they are saying yes to things from their gut versus from their mind. The mind is not allowed to make decisions. The gut for the generators makes their decisions and because it knows what available energy it has, that's not necessarily the mind and personality. We might think, oh man, I really want to go do this thing, and that sounds so much fun. But your body knows that it might be feeling a little bit sick, that your personality hasn't caught up to yet. And it's like, oh, we actually need to rest tonight. And so when your gut is saying, uh-uh, no, I don't want to go to this party, but your mind is like, yes, I do, I want to socialize you and you go to this party, and then you get getting and then you end up getting a little bit more sick because you didn't listen to that gut. And so when we have 70% of the population making decisions out of their mind, we have the not self. Human design gives us our true self and our not-self. You can see it in the graph. Well, everything that's colored in is true self. That's our definition, that's what we're broadcasting to the world. And then we have our not-self, which is where we're taking in the world. But the mind wants to go into this openness and say, oh no, I want to be these things. I'm not enough on my own with what I have. I need to be this, I need to be that, because what we're seeing, the world that we see is through the openness. And so we're seeing all these cool ways of expression because people are cool. And so we're seeing all these cool ways of expressing. We're like, oh, I want to be that, I want to be that, I want to be that. And that's not us. We have our innate nature. We have a form, uh, body that allows us to navigate this plane in a way that's so perfect for our trip in this life. Yet we're all so unique. And generators are here building the heartbeat of humanity. The other three types don't have that sacral energy. Well, it's open. I can't say don't have. It's open. And so they're using that to help guide or manifest or judge the environment. Reflectors are here as judges. And so they're really kind of like see an overview of the community. Everyone is so unique for their trip and they are designed perfectly for exactly what they need to offer because the stamina that generators can bring are the ones that are building cities and keeping things going. They're sustaining the world as we need it to work, as that humanity needs it. They're sustaining, and it's so important. It's such a gift when the other three types try to be like generators, and we try really hard because that's the norm. That's what the expectation without this knowledge of the differences in others. We can tend to think that the majority is supposed to be the way. And that's not helpful in a lot of ways. Everyone is so unique, and every generator has their purpose. No two generators are the same, no two types, no two people are the same, and everyone has their purpose. And I love generators. My boyfriend's a generator, he's amazing. He helps keep me going. He's very ritualistic in his pattern. Not all generators are like that, but he's very ritualistic, and that kind of keeps my pace because as a projector and I'm an emotional projector too. So I have highs and lows, and he keeps the stamina of the household with his one-three generator energy.

SPEAKER_00: 15:34

So he's your balancer with regard to the way he shows up and you're showing up. You guys have this symbiosis based on the way both of your energies seem to work. Yes, yes, yes. Oh, I love that. Yeah, I love that. I think I can't remember, but I think I the one time I looked into this, I was a generator, I was crushed, and I don't even know what kind of generator I was. And I said, Oh, this is what people meant. I'm nobody, or I'm just like everybody. And I remember thinking, I think I don't want to learn about this modality too much anymore. But then I remember seeing something, I think it was the Dalai Lama had had said that for some reason the Western civilization, everybody wants to be special and everybody is and no one is. And I thought, yeah, and I said, dang, Dalai Lama got me on that.

SPEAKER_01: 16:32

And then Dalai Lama is and a generator. Get out of here. The current Dalai Lama is a generator, right? Come on, that breaks my heart. But no, you are special and you deserve to go into your nuances if it feels good for you. Every generator is so unique and you're all serving a certain purpose. And because your aura is open and enveloping, when you're in alignment, you're literally calling all those things to you that you can respond to that feel juicy and satisfying. Yes. You know, satisfaction is so key for generators, what we're after. But when you're in a frustrated state for the generators, that's a signpost that you're out of alignment. We can meet resistance and navigate with awareness and confidence. So we can say, oh, you know what? I'm feeling some friction on this. Is it because I wasn't asked in the right way? Is someone trying to tell me what to do? What's going on here? And so when we get into our decision-making process, which is really the key takeaway of human design, is strategy and authority. Like that is the baseline when we are working with our type strategy and our personal authority, then we can navigate healthy decision making because you know what? We're gonna meet friction, we're gonna meet not self, we're gonna meet people that are out of alignment. So, how do we keep ourself in alignment so that we can navigate these situations? Right.

SPEAKER_00: 17:52

Yeah, yeah, no, for sure. That makes perfect sense. And it sounds like I need to pull off my old measly report. Look back at it and ask you a couple of questions. Yeah, absolutely. We can do a session, it might be helpful. Yes, I think it might be. Maybe I I will um I'll be your personal proponent on at least pulling me out of the generator heap. I think one of the things that really I felt so connected to asking you to talk with me today was because I found out that there is some past life information that comes through this human design system. Yes. Yeah, so much I'm I'm thinking technique. I mean, it's almost like technology.

SPEAKER_01: 18:49

Yeah, it's its own language. Really? It's its own language. Some fun little things that come forward when we look at a human design chart. We have all these numbers on the side. So we have 13 conscious activations and we have 13 unconscious activations. And within these numbers, you're gonna see a number and a decimal point and another number. And so, what that is, we have 64 gates within the whole wheel of this system, and that's the entire year, the 360 wheels, 64 gates. And then within that, we have 36 channels. And then underneath all of that, we have lines or six lines for every gate, and then we have colors, tones, bases. It gets so, so, so specific, right? And so when we look at our design side, that's our body, that's the red, that's our genetic inheritance. And so that's what forms first. That's gonna be information from both of our parents and some information that we're carrying in with us. When we look at the design side, we're gonna see past patterns that we're working through in this life. The moon nodes are the direction in which we are traveling. And so we are traveling from our design south node to our personality north node. And that switch happens around late 30s, early 40s, depending on the person's chart. And it's about Uranus. When we get to that Uranus opposition, we switch into where we're headed. We set our baseline in our experience. We set our baseline from that design south node, and that's what we're seeing. That's the view of our lens, that's what we're working through. And then we switch that in our Uranus opposition, and then our direction forward is our personality north node. And we can look at the lens of these to see our trajectory. And within that trajectory of our nodes, we're also meeting very specific people. And so when we look at the decimal points of those nodes, those are the lines. And so those decimal points of each of those gates that we see within our chart, those are lines. And we can see very specific people that we're connecting with. So when we look at a chart, I've been able to see myself in every chart that I've given a reading to. I've been able to find my teachers. And we're actually more genetically alike to our grandparents, which is a fun fact. And really, yeah, certain aspects will skip a generation and show up more prevalent in the next generation. Yeah. I have birth data for my father's parents, but I don't know exact times. I kind of played around with it. And as I've been studying, I've been able to see what could be possibilities based on how I know them, you know, because it's so specific. And we're able to see, oh, well, this makes sense for them. And it's a very specific language. People literally speak their own design. It's so cool to see. You don't have to know it, and people are already saying the things that come up. You can see their circuitry, you can see their not-self shines through or their true self, what they're broadcasting, but the language is so specific. And so you can use that when finding a time that you don't have, it's definitely important to have an exact time because we're always in motion. The neutrino streams are very important to be the exact time. And so I've been able to get ideas about my father's parents, my grandparents, and have an idea of it. And so I can see little aspects of that, but I don't know information about my mom's side. And as a woman, my mom's mother is the most key person in that interaction because you have that womb information. But yeah, so we can see people in our charts. We can see patterns and karmas. And karmas literally just translate to patterns. The sun earth gate activations, those are about 70% of the imprinting that shines through for us. And so within that, we have your profile. And your profile is how you show up to the world and how people see you and how you're meant to interact. And so when uh when you look at your human design chart, you'll be given kind of a fraction looking. I am a 5-1 projector. So that means I'm a transpersonal destiny. And so I have very specific people that I am here to connect with. The fives and the sixes, they are left angles. And the left angles are here to be teachers and leaders. Not that the other sides can't, but we have very specific people that we have to connect with. We are not here on a personal journey. All of the other profiles, the one threes, the one fours, the two fours, the three fives, the four sixes, those kind of profiles are right angles and they're on a personal destiny. And so they're here making in the moment decisions and building and building their karmas in this life on a personal destiny. Like who they speak to is completely up to their choice. And how they like navigate their plane is completely up to their choice. Whereas the left angles, they have very specific people. The past life people that come through will have a lot of deja vu because we're meeting up with certain energies that are helpful or certain energies that need to be balanced from a previous lifetime, things like that.

SPEAKER_00: 24:12

The south node, I recognize that from astrology. And so you're saying that the south node to the north node switch is that that kind of retrospective, foundational type of position we find ourselves in that then switches to what we want to essentially be when we grow up towards the north node? Did I get that right? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And so that south node is based on all of these things like karma and different experiences that even we might have inherited generationally. Yes. Okay. So what happens around the age of 30?

SPEAKER_01: 25:03

So around the age of 30 is our Saturn return. Ah, and that's around 27. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. 27 to 31 in there. Because Saturn goes through 28, 29 year cycles. And so it's like a three-year period of that you'll have some new awarenesses. A lot of people have a rough time if they're living out of alignment or needing to adjust their way. You know, Saturn's a very big teacher in rules and life path. And yeah. And so if you're living outside of your integrity, Saturn's going to come in and say, hey, shape up. Let's let's go a different way. So the first 30 years of life were in that first Saturn cycle. And then the Uranus opposition is where adulthood apparently is supposed to happen. And so it's around like 38 to 41. And honestly, I think that's amazing that it's so much like later than people think. At least I've heard so many times like, oh, you're an adult at 18, you're an adult at 21, you're an adult at 25, you're an adult at 30. Those are all true. But you know, Mitra, you're in this opposition until you're nearly 40. And that makes so much more sense. I'm 35. And I meet a ton of people who don't feel very adulty sometimes. Nor do they seem to be. We need a little more time. Yeah. We need a little bit more time to lay this foundation and figure out, okay, what do I like to do in this world? What is my purpose and my passion? A lot of people's purpose, I think, to help others and to heal the world, but in what way? In what way do you like doing it? What is unique for you? How do you do that? And so that's the foundation that you're laying in your first year on a cycle. And then the opposition happens, and then you get to like ground into it and say, move forward and get into your mastery and really make an influence.

SPEAKER_00: 26:57

Gotcha. And it's not lost on me that the very people that are shaping us up until the age of 30 generally that are shaping us are probably now in their north node perspective, but they're shaping us from a south node standpoint. And so this whole thing truly is shifting because if I'm passing along to my children, well, they're still in their south node position, if you will, but I'm passing along things that I haven't learned and taken with me or had generational or ancestral innate knowledge. I'm then moving that to the north node, but building their south node at the same time. It's a moving target at all times. Yes, there's a lot there.

SPEAKER_01: 27:52

Those first seven years of life are so crucial to building that background knowledge and how we see ourselves and how we interact with others. It happens in those first seven years. And so when we have parents or caretakers that are living in alignment, they can support a healthy being who can be independent and make confident decisions. But when we have out of alignment adults in our life making decisions and trying to make us be like them, trying to make us be like how they want other things to be, instead of seeing each person's uniqueness. And I think that's when we're truly in alignment and helping others is when we can see each person for the uniqueness and speak their language. It's really important to be able to speak each other's language. Because if you're trying to get a generator child to be a manifester, we're gonna have problems. We're gonna have problems. They're not gonna be using their gut correctly. They're gonna be trying to initiate things and say that if I just imagine this, I can make this happen kind of thing. And that's not even true for manifestors. Manifestors have a very specific cycle that they have to follow. And so they go through these periods of rest and deep reflection where they are bringing in so much information. Then they get this spark and they have this spark to start something, and then they find the people that they need to get this going, and then they find the people who can sustain. That's usually generators or like a projector can help manage the situation. They find the people they need to get the ball going, but they are not the sustainers. Manifestors are always the initiators, and so they're bringing things forward, they're bringing the ideas forward. And everyone can have ideas, yes, but how we bring it forward, that's the important part. If we're trying to get a generator child to just go get it, just go do it. You can do anything you want, just go after it. They're gonna be out of alignment because they're here to respond and they're here to respond from their gut. Or when you tell a generator child, oh, speak to me when it's their gut that we really need to hear, we need to get them. In their body and using their gut, and that comes as a uh-huh or a na-uh. And so when we're telling generator child, use your words, they don't work like that. It's damaging.

SPEAKER_00: 30:12

Totally get that. I have a friend, she had just recently gotten a new position at work, and her boss had asked her to create something. And she said, to me, just off the record, this isn't what I do. My skill set and expertise is taking a structure that exists and blowing it up or improving it, problem solving, troubleshooting where the issues are in this structure and then fixing it. I totally know what you're saying here because yeah, her skill set is beautiful and so pointed and so successful, but it's not creating. Yeah. It's deconstructing and reconstructing. So yeah, that makes perfectly good sense to me. And so for someone who doesn't know how to get started, or that's not their deal, my deal isn't to start, my deal is to fix, yeah, which is a whole other set of expertise than we're starting out with a deficit. I'm interested to know in general, if you can tell me what are the types of assets or aspects that grandparents or past people tend to provide in general or where those connections are. I don't know if I'm asking it the right way.

SPEAKER_01: 31:46

Yeah, absolutely. So what we can see, and within my own experience and from um the people that I've studied and listened to, because there are some phenomenal analysts out there who studied with Raz, the founder. He channeled the system back in the late 80s, and so they studied with him, and so they've been doing family charts and been able to find a lot of similarities. What we can see is that we're carrying information forward. There's something from the past that's useful for the now. And so when we go through a death cycle, for example, the personality crystal kind of dissolves back into the design. And so when the baby is being born, the design crystal comes first from the sperm that goes into the body, and the design crystal develops first, and it's also the last to go. And so when we have these crystals going back into the earth, we can leave loose personality crystals at time. That's where we get like ghosts and things like that. Like they're rogue bundles of crystals that are still hanging out that might have not dissolved properly in the death cycle. And so there's these rogue, but there are limited number of design crystals. And these design crystals came from conception, from the Big Bang, and there's limited numbers, and so we can only have a certain number of incarnations and people and bodies at a time. And so we're taking information that we've learned from the past. We're always learning, we're always growing. And so we're taking all of this information that we've gained from the past and moving that into the future. And so once we dissolve the body, the design crystal is returned, it's returned, changed. We just had this whole life experience. And so we we have certain aspects of like memories, if you will, that are crystalline structures that come from our experiences and from the neutrino streams. This is the system is about the impact of neutrinos and how that shares information. And so when we have the design crystals that go back into the world and then into the next body, when that crystal is ready to be incarnated into the next round, it's not coming back as the same person. There is no such thing. We're never the same person, even yesterday to today, that doesn't exist. So it's coming back into the body, into the new mother with some previous information, and that's literally bundles of crystals, bundles of information that's coming in, and then it calls in a new personality crystal that's relevant to the time and that's needed for that lifetime. And so we have little bits of our past, yeah, that we use to help us in the now so that we can get to the future.

SPEAKER_00: 34:54

I love it because one of the things that we've looked at is, and then I have a question about twins, but one of the things that we've looked at is the memory of children of their past lives that has been validatable, right? Yeah. So these kids come into a life and they say, Oh my gosh, where am I? Once they're able to speak and make sense of dreams they're having or glimpses or flashes of memories to say, wait a minute, my house is not here. I used to live on 333 Hollywood Boulevard or Beverly Hills. And so what you're saying in the human design system is that these are crystals that have been retained, these pieces of information or memories that have been retained and that the child is able to recall. Yes. That's amazing. Yeah, it's so fascinating. It is so fascinating. How does this apply to a starseed on our earth plane where they would potentially either feel like they've never been here before or their memory is from another planetary system? Are you saying that they could retain those crystals? Am I understanding?

SPEAKER_01: 36:22

Yeah. So I don't have a ton of familiarity with star seeds and that languaging, but in this system, what we have are a stream of neutrinos that are electromagnetic and affected by gravity. And so when we need incarnation for the earth to function at a period of time, we need certain aspects. And so we're going to call in what's necessary. And so sometimes like we get information, we have neutrino streams that come from everywhere. So neutrinos come as a byproduct of fusion, yeah, or like a collecting of a star, the fusion of the sun. And so like photons are emitted and neutrons are emitted, and then neutrinos are emitted. And then so while we get 70% of this information from our sun, sun and earth, because earth also has neutrinos. And that's part of your profile. Gotcha. Yeah. And that's 70% of our makeup, but that leaves 30% of neutrinos coming from anywhere in the galaxy, anywhere they can. And so there is information that comes from wherever that can formulate and collect for whatever is necessary in a current incarnation. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00: 37:40

That makes so much sense in a very uh conceptualized way of looking at people who, for whatever reason, don't identify as this earth being exactly where they're from. It seems foreign to them. But this also makes me think of generational types or periods of time where, for instance, the Gen Xers, a percentage of them were considered indigo children. So those indigo children were more perceptive. They had a lot more intuition, they felt closer to source or creator than perhaps the generations before them. So based on what you're describing, it would be those specific data elements, wherever they are coming from, sun, earth, or wherever, that would then be important for them to continue to move the civilization toward enlightenment. I guess we're all heading to connection or or unity.

SPEAKER_01: 38:45

Absolutely. Yeah, that is the path that we're on. And so we're moving from this place of the cross of planning, is where we've been for the past couple hundred years. And that's the majority of the collective movement. And so since there was a big change in 1781, where we began to shift from the seven-centered being to the nine-centered being that we are today. That's the knowledge of this human design system. And so the seven-centered being was very strategic. They had to be because they needed to develop communities. They needed to develop togetherness and religion and structure and authoritative nature that was necessary for the strategic seven-centered being. Well, in 1781, we discovered there's more than just Saturn. Technology, it expanded to the point of being able to see Uranus now. The seven-centered being was on a Saturnian cycle. And so once Uranus was discovered, it's like, whoa, what else is out there? What else don't we know? That discovery and the ability to have that discovery came forward. And there was a shift at that time where the nine-centered beings started to come in. The first to come in were the projectors to come in and help guide the change because they can see where things are out of alignment. This takes time. Evolution does not come fast by any means. There were still people being born before the first nine-centered beings started to come in. They're called Homo sapiens and transitists. We'll be fully nine-centered starting in 2027. This is coming up. This is why this information is super important to have a base knowledge of because we are changing. We are considered Homo sapiens and transitists. And so we're shifting from the seven-centered to this nine-centered being over the nine-centers are going to behave very differently than the seven-centered. The new type that could be coming in, supposed to be coming in, based on patterns that we can recognize. You know, we've seen patterns. So these new beings that could be coming in, they're going to be more individual. And then the individual needs less of the tribe, of the community, but it's going to lead to more unity in the future. It's a fun cycle to watch, and it gets so deep. There's a number of classes and books and stuff on this, but we're moving from the cross of planning into the cross of the sleeping phoenix, which is coming in 2027, and that's waking up our individuality. It's like, who are we without the whole community? We have a shift that's happening in our solar plexus center, which is our emotional center in the human design system. Gate 55 is in mutation right now. And so it coming in 2027, we're expecting that gate 55 is gonna behave differently or maybe not even reacting at all anymore. Gate 55 is a gate of spirit. It's part of the mystical way. But it's gonna be shifting a little bit. And people coming in are, yeah, more individualistic. We need to be aware of how we react personally or yeah, interact personally with our environment, with others in our environment, be so that we can support these very individual beings that are coming in because we need to know who we are so that we can support them, so that we're not trying to fit everybody into the thinking of the tribe. That's the tribe is the language of human design system. It's part of circuitry. Instead of trying to make everybody fit into our little bubble, we need to be able to appreciate the differences and see people as their nine-centered self so that we can support the babies coming in in the future.

SPEAKER_00: 42:24

And it's so happening. Yeah. Where collective, where traditional religions, where governmental and political groupings, all of these different things meant so much to our survival over time. Now people are pulling away and looking at things with a different lens, looking to shed sometimes those labels and be more individualistic. But I love what you said about ideally, we're all heading individualistically towards unity. I love that. Yeah. Yeah, I finally found my chart. What I want to ask you is I am a twin. Cool. And I am five minutes older than my sister, but astrologically, we're almost identical because five minutes means nothing. So our human design chart and report come back identical. And I'm looking at mine right now and the different, I think I'm a four-six angle cross of Maya. Yeah, that means I'm sure something to you. It looks extremely complicated with a whole lot of gates and channels. But at the end of the day, I wondered when someone is so similar, like my sister and I, yet clearly so individual, how do we account for that? And that was always my question in astrology. I and obviously that's based on something as generalized, I use that term loosely, as a birth date.

SPEAKER_02: 44:06

Right.

SPEAKER_00: 44:07

So how do you counsel if my sister and I came to you and said, Avery Kretchman, please tell us how do we account for the individualities in each individual?

SPEAKER_01: 44:18

Absolutely. So we would have to look at the advanced aspects. There's a good chance that the chart that you have is a basics, but when we go into the advanced, then we can see your colors, tones, and bases. And so that's where the nuancing happens. You guys might have all the same lines, but how specific color tones and bases come through each of those lines is going to vary for you. Uh, my stepbrothers are twins. I've looked at their charts. And so one person I think has inner vision. And so he's meant to have an environment where he can go inside of himself and be more reflective. It's a huge aspect of environment digestion, how your brains function, those vary by the minute. We'll look at the deeper layers of the nuances. Yeah, the environment, the digestion, those are huge aspects that can make a whole difference.

SPEAKER_00: 45:10

That makes so much sense. The chart that I'm looking at is 200 and some pages. Oh, wow. But so yeah, you might have it in there. Yeah, it might be. Yeah, it does say it's a blueprint. What you're saying is this could once I get down into the deeper details, it could explain why certain things for my sister and I are still different, even though we were born within five minutes of each other.

SPEAKER_01: 45:36

Yeah, your cognition can change, your unnecessary environment for taking things in could change.

SPEAKER_00: 45:41

Yeah, yeah, that's so interesting. Yeah, I'm seeing for my environment, they're valleys. And I would agree with that, whatever that means.

SPEAKER_01: 45:52

Yeah, yeah, yeah. So you kind of like to be at the base of things and need some wide open spaces. Do you have an open floor plan in your house and anywhere? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah. Cause that would be helpful for you or making sure you're working in environments where you can see out a little bit, you have some breathability. Gotcha.

SPEAKER_00: 46:12

Oh my goodness. It just makes me want to talk to you forever. But yeah, so so for someone like me, I would just contact you and say, Hey, I pulled this initial blueprint. Can you help me understand this thing? Help me understand what my past life karmas are, what I'm bringing with me. Will it tell us what I'm likely to pass on as well?

SPEAKER_01: 46:38

That's I'm not sure. I don't I don't know because I do believe that we have free will and so that we are making choices as we grow. You are a mom, so we could look at your goods.

SPEAKER_00: 46:49

Yeah. And we could look and see what types of things, or to your point, what types of things from my parents and their dad's parents would translate. Wow, I just love it. Yeah, cool. Okay, one last question before you go. Is there a specific outside of contacting you directly? Is there a book that you recommend that would give someone a general idea of kind of how this system works? I I understand is extremely deep and layered.

SPEAKER_01: 47:26

Yeah, so I um do align myself with the school, the International Human Design School and Jovian Archive, which is family and his his legacy is through JovianArchive.com. The Infinite Guide to Human Design System, I think you can get it on Amazon. You can get it through Jovian Archive. That would be my best recommendation. It's a fantastic book. It goes through a whole bunch of things. There's so much information out there. There are a ton of people who have written fantastic books and books. I know Jaden Perkin has some books out there that are fantastic. Dr. Karen Curry Parker, she's adapted the system and made her own way. She's got some awesome information. She was one of Ra's students. I would definitely start with Jovian Archive and go with the infinite definite guide. Yeah, I'll put it in the show notes.

SPEAKER_00: 48:12

That's perfect because I'm thinking, wouldn't it be cool for someone to get an interest and then come to you and say, Yeah, okay, what are we doing here? Yeah, 100%.

SPEAKER_01: 48:23

I am an investigator, I am an experimenter. I tend to take in a ton of information and then find a teacher. Not everyone can do that, but that's my way. I love to absorb a lot of things and then go find someone who can go deeper with me and answer a question.

SPEAKER_00: 48:37

Yeah, that's my thing too. I want to get as much information as possible and then say, please help me interpret what in the world I'm seeing here. Yeah. Yeah. So that I at least understand what some of these terms even mean. Thank you enough, Avery, for now piquing my interest even more and for sharing so much information. I had no idea that so much reincarnation, karma, and all of that we tend to overlook as far as being our foundational piece to us was even available in this type of information. So I thank you so much.

SPEAKER_01: 49:14

This has been an honor and a delight. Thank you so much. Thank you.